i wanted to get people's opinion on something.
how do you feel when people use illegal means while performing their activism to shed light on the watchtower.
there have been people who have illegally recorded conversations with elders and with branch offices or at meetings.
I really dont care what happens to the Watchtower Corporation. If someone breaks the law and gets their super secret data base or if someone records them to show how truly awful they are, they deserve whatever happens to them.
I wouldn't hack, but I would record. When you are shitty to people they will be shitty back. You know the reap/ sow scripture.
i can't wait till 2017 comes to an end.
here are s few things that have happened to my family and i:.
my jehovah's witnesses mom died in the beginning of the year.
Oh- sorry you've had a rough time this year. I hope it gets better for you. My 2017 has been good mostly, lots of travel for work, some stressful work things going on.
trying not to type swearwords as i write this so bare with me.. my little 3yo attends meetings with her jw mum (who doesn't believe watchtower anymore but is stuck in because she relies on her family for help).
my mum (the one who tells people im dead) had a party for her grandchildren.
that's my 4 nieces and 1 nephew aged from 3yo-11yo.
pale.emperor2 hours ago2 hours ago2 hours ago
Would probably be interesting to know how your wife's elder father explained that away?
"It's just kids being kids. They shouldnt do that although... if her dad was a Jehovah's Witness it wouldnt have happened. Just saying..." I asked this question to her mum on the phone after you posted it.
That is typical JW behavior, instead of taking responsibility for their own bad behavior, it's your fault because you don't go to the hall.
today there was a jesus preaching head case with a bullhorn blaring "save yourself from the fires of hell!
accept jesus.
god loves you!
I was so fake and artificial. Only caring about appearances, never really caring about anyone but myself.
Service = How we do our part to get saved, not really to help anyone else. Telling everyone how great being a witness is, while hating every second of it.
Meetings = have to attend or get destroyed at Armageddon, not because we are learning to be better people.
Shallow- I only dated "brothers" with money (except for one bethel overseer).
watchtower november 2017, page 10, paragraph 8 - "today, a christian guilty of serious sin needs to seek the help of congregation elders to recover.
) why is this so important?
first, the arrangement for elders to handle cases of serious sin comes from jehovah, (2nd lie!
Control, it's all about control.
i wanted to get people's opinion on something.
how do you feel when people use illegal means while performing their activism to shed light on the watchtower.
there have been people who have illegally recorded conversations with elders and with branch offices or at meetings.
Not every state in the US requires two party consent to record a conversation. In many places it's not illegal. I think bringing to light the actions of judicial committees is far more important.
trying not to type swearwords as i write this so bare with me.. my little 3yo attends meetings with her jw mum (who doesn't believe watchtower anymore but is stuck in because she relies on her family for help).
my mum (the one who tells people im dead) had a party for her grandchildren.
that's my 4 nieces and 1 nephew aged from 3yo-11yo.
This makes me so mad, but unfortunately it's not an isolated incident. I have recently heard a similar experience regarding a relatives 3 1/2 year old child. But it does make me believe that these little ones will never join the cult after being treated so badly.
i have noticed another popular pattern of behaviour amongst witnesses in recent years.. many, and i mean lots of ones with instagram accounts have closed the wife's account, and have started a "couple's" account instead.
also, for families.
the children's accounts have been closed, and the husband starts a "family account".. it is mainly on the husband's device, and seemingly under his control.
It's a way to make sure conformity is maintained. No one can develop their own personality, interests, fashion, etc.
so today the well-respected and serious newspaper trouw.nl came with child abuse within the jw as their topmost frontpage article.. the articles are well researched and aim primarily at the dutch jw situation.. afaik at least on member of this forum assisted the newspaper with the articles.
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other media are picking up as well.....
One of my never JW friends said" so if you have consensual sex with another adult, they will disfellowship you, but if you rape a child they do not?" I said" yep, that's how it works."
don't start fighting, darlings.
i am genuinely curious.
after all i was a jobo 50 years and thought the wbt$ was 100% correct.. i ask this because i see that, for example, christian denominations (or whatever), likely have differing interpretations of the same writing.
I don't think anyone has the right interpretation or view. I think we all draw our own conclusions and beliefs based on our experiences. Religion stunts that discovery by drawing conclusions for us and proclaiming their conclusions are 100% correct, then many people stop exploring.
